First night we left a little early and caught a lil mess of bass before the sun went down. LOL. Hope this helps someone out there. Re: SURFACE DRIVES IN DEEP WATER. Also duck hunting these waters too. Re: SeaDek vs AquaTraction. Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:58 pm. Re: Prodrive won't get up to speed. First of all congrats on choosing a great motor, you can install it yourself if you'd like, an engine hoist would definitely be a plus or chain fall. Posts: 156. The 16 footer fits in the garage. Anyhow, I decided to run an 1848 hull, extended deck, pointed bow, hunt deck and saddle pods. Last visit was: Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:51 am: It is currently Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:51 amI'm runninng a Kohler command pro--25 hp. MMT Pro Member. Carb and exhaust, will do good also. 125 boat in all honesty. I have a 2000 Vanguard 36 on a Pro Drive Motor on a Pro Drive 17-48 console steer. Motor is a model 303447 T1368 E1 code 03061611. Put the opposite bullet connection Male/female on the other end of the short section of wire. 6K people responded Event by Alan Flores and Caroline B Crater Packs Landing Public · Anyone on or off Facebook Getting down in the swamp and testing the durability of our transoms! Poker run again this year along with extra side prizes. Look where the pushrod seats under the rocker arm. Location: Conroe tx. Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 4:33 pm. Outboard motors running wide open in the swamp. What is weird is the starter motor spins but doesn't engage the flywheel. Hey ichabod. Re: Wanted: Duck Lease 2014-2015 (Delacroix/Reggio/Caernarvo I hunt in a club that has leases down there all the way from lake lery down to past 4 horse lake, and on N Reggio down to petain. Briggs key is a Briggs key. Location: Duck Hill & Starkville, MS Duck Blind question. All of them are different. Re: Boat Dr new 12. Well worth the money! No replacement for displacement!!!!! Sent from my beeper. Just picked up a brand new Copperhead 23. I suspect the problem started with age (motor is 8 years old), and. Keep in mind I've only run this boat with these new mods for about 10 minutes, so I'm sure there's a bit more to be desired. Take it out and clean it, or cut the plunger off and reinstall, or fill the hole with a short ss bolt. Location: Centreville MD. Location: D'town, LA. Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:24 pm. im not going to jump on anything when im ready ill have until next season to decide but ive read a ton of good things about the copperhead pushing a big load very. After cutting my skeg, I gained 1 to 2 mph on 2 blade and 2 mph on 3 blade. Posts: 4. There's a wire on each side of the cylindrical mercury switch. Heads, cam and carb will get you to 30 mph and 4200 rpms for about +-$2500. MMT Addict. My carb is getting to much fuel and floods. I've had it about a year and haven't duck hunted with it yet but have been fishing. problems. Did this years ago and haven't looked back since. Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:10 pm Posts: 146 Location: Becthelsville, Pa Re: Copperhead 23hp vs. MMT Member. Which ever one is not hot is the problem side. Want to run shallow too and dry _____ JReese 1754 GatorTrax w/ MB 6000 customized by EVT: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:36. The run involves a lot of shallow river with heavy grass and mud banks; further on, the river becomes narrow with high banks , cluttered with logs and underwater brush, even logjams. Go devil 27hp surface drive opinions/reviews. Re: Dam B, Texas duck hunting. check to make sure you got good or a well charged battery with good clean connections. I've yet to see a video of the Hoss that impressed me. Crawfish. Only thing similar to an airboat is the steering. So throw off. my question would be if i opt for a 1636 (cuz its cheaper) would it be. I've been using 93 octane from a gas station. I have a 1648 with a 35 mud buddy. They claimed 18-20 mph I could barely bump 13. 5- 31 mph with a light load. The 22hp wasn't alot faster, but it did have alot more torque. Can be overkill too. They do not run 40+ with a 35 Briggs that you get with the $17k price. 0-32. Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:26 am. i really would like to find a used rig with a 35 on it in the 16 or 17' range. My guess. Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes. Re: Mud buddy drive question. 15x36 go devil duck skiff , 16 vanguard twin cyl . Re: 5hp go devil longtail. I let the motor idle and bump it into and out of gear when picking up decoys in deeper water. i just read where on a demo. _________________. You can apply GatorGlide over factory paint jobs with the same prep, sand and wipe with acetone. #CFFITR. Last visit was: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:38 am: It is currently Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:38 amVideo and Picture highlights from the Duck Run that took place in the Sparkleberry Swamp off of the Santee River in the summer of 2009. I could never get that setup to work right with my 1542 mod v hull and had to constantly muscle it to the point of near. However the cost associated with the blind, and trailer make the 2 ft longer 1838 23hp more expensive than the 1644 27hp rig. (pink and white styrofoam insulation from Home Depot) Speeds | Shallow Water:1 person no gear 25. . Wash ya boat GOOD !!!! Go to car wash and use engine cleaner (degreaser) Spray your boat with ALumabright. But if you have a non CDI motor, advance timing key. I have put together some information that I have found for the Kawasaki. ADVISE on a Longtail in Shallow waters Rocky bottoms. the gt guys are a top notch crew. i have an 8hp outboard now on it and to get back where i need to get, i have too get out of boat and push. Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:42 am. . MMT 1000 Club. River Run Surface drive motors. I have personaly weighed a 35 hunter short. Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:34 am Posts: 882 Location: Ahead of you, with a rubber band turning my prop!!Location: Old East Dallas, Texas. Fix: polish that cam lobe with 600 wet paper. Seen a few rigs recently with this design and liked the idea/functionality of the saddle pods for a little extra storage without having to compromise space and have a full blown gun/rod box etc. Con: not very good in rough water. . It would be nice to inspect and lube the valves / valve guides. 1644 Southfork with 2009 23hp GTR. MMT 1000 Club. And I saw impressive gains. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Went out to rough water and took on a bunch of. Bending the skeg is the last option to take, it weakens the metal and can come out of adjustment when you strike objects at speed. Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:57 am Posts: 470 Location: Running between. . 1854 gets my vote for best all around sized boat. Location: Michigan. Ah shit, all my godevil motors had a little water in the grease even inside the shaft tube. Did 2 coats. Originally they were going to use the Subaru, but ended up going Kohler. The excel has a mb hd 35 and the prodigy has a 4400 bd hdr. And to further clarify, I hunt the White River Bottoms in AR. Posts: 155. Any of yall have a GD crawfish model. Re: Prodrive Clutch. The Sparkle Berry Duck Run he is talking about doesn't occur during duck season. A few of us, not many, plan to take ourselves on a Sparkleberry tour this Saturday morning. if you have the ne 2 wire pump, then no, but you can get a brand new 3 wire pump and reservoir, ready to go for $187. the super guards are to big and wont allow you to bite down in the shallows. Posts: 37. My buddy has a mini 23 on a rivited 1542 and was getting 17 mph empty. In 1989 Shannon "Mac"" McKinney came to my platoon in Cco 3/75 Ranger. The manufact says the 1838 is the fastest boat and the 23 is the best motor because it can run w/o batt and has recoil start if needed. Posts: 49. Hi folks, I have an old 1432 Quichita running a Mud-skipper kit with a Predator 420. _____ Back Yard Bullshit 1848 with Delta stage. Location: Decatur, IL. Used to carry 8-10 people around a half mile or so a day for most of duck season. Get a 35 if you can but if not you can run a 23 for a year then you will end up getting a 35. Re: Bottom Coating for aluminum boat. Bearing failure in the outdrive is usually due to failed seals on the outdrive allowing water in that causes corrosion on the. Bug. The reverse was an absolute joke it was more of a brake if you wanted to stop. The ca57 for the gatortail and the hammer prop are also hard hard wheels. Re: 29 kawasaki fuel pump help!! Walbro GSL393 (40GPH @ 30ish PSI) Airtex E8228 (38GPH @ 30ish PSI) Walbro GSL391 (50GPH @ 30ish PSI) Some aftermarket pumps that meet the required specs as the pump for the FD791D (the 29hp kawa with fuel injection that you have uses a pump with 38 GPH at 26ish psi). I use the toro key because it covers the key area, but any Briggs key should work. Posts: 4820. It is a Briggs Vanguard on a Copperhead frame and will run like any other Briggs Vanguard (pretty much every GT, Prodrive, and Mudbuddy except the 25's and 27's is a Vanguard). 7V, turn the motor on and for a 20A stator, at about 2000RPM, it should start charging and at about 3500RPM you should see over 14V at the battery terminals. 8 with 5 people and 2 icechest. All times are UTC [ DST] Who is online: Users browsing this forum: Majestic-12 [Bot] and 64 guests. Most everyone agrees that headwork is the biggest bang for the buck upfront. Some people were giving shit to a buddy of mine about how excel boats aren't that tough. everything we run here is just thick hydrilla and lillys. I only have empty speeds so far, but I picked up about 3mph on top end. 3/16 bottom and sides. we are starting to put the motor that got stolen back together, and i want to make sure we have all the fuses, switches, and relays we need. Mine was really easy. 3. Forum. There aren't many replacement parts out there. find a good prodrive repair place and they might give you that piece. MMT 1000 Club. Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:54 pm. motor can't run at the designed angle to push the load correctly (usually its a performance problem from the. Posts: 10388. A guy at the launch and I had a conversation about this exact topic. Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:49 pm: cmk07c. 1754 Gator Trax Hybrid, Hunt Deck ,with MB 4400 Black Death HDR, Duck Slaying, Mud Slingin Machine!!! Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:58 pm: Hogjaw. 2014 Prodigy 1754 17' overall length. Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:39 pm. Low voltage may also be the problem by not holding clutch plates. Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:11 pm Posts: 556 Location: Metairie, LA Re: Black Cloud ammo problems. I have a primer bulb in the box but don't run the motor with it on- mine doesn't need it. While picking up decoys idling around it sputters and loses power and wants to kill and when I try to get up and run she runs like garbage for a while. I used to run a BDMR 1st with the predator 13hp, then with a 22hp predator. I've been emailing Uncle-J about building a boat. Had carb issues, eventually changed the carb and fixed the problem--ran 18. The run in the morning we moved a very good pace even in the deeper more open water. was able to get 1050lb load on plane, max speed 21. Video and Picture highlights from the Duck Run that took place in the Sparkleberry Swamp off of the Santee River in the summer of 2009. Posts: 4820. 15x36 Go Devil Duck Skiff with a Go Devil Longtail. Completely empty, I'm running 37-38 on my 1848 custom crawfish skiff. Honestly I don't expect it to do much, not really. Trouble finding Oil Leak. A few of us are thinking about making a 3 day hunt at pass a loutre for our first time within the next few weeks. I have hunted 2 kids and 2 adults out of the boat comfortably. I still run a direct drive and if i'm putting and want to slow down I just trim up a bit. That is just screwed down, the floor does run all the way under it. on it but when I try to idle under load, it often slowly dies after about 30 seconds. Use it. Paint holds up well against scratches but if anything metallic dings against the boat, the paint chips easily. #GhostBoat. At 3500 rpms your not going to see 27 mph. 7 MPHRe: Gas pouring out of carb overflow?! FWIW, I have seen only a couple situations were an e-pump is really needed and that was when the stock pump was defective. No hooks but a few dings. From the box it was only getting 3100-3200 RPM in water. 5 river run on the same boat didn't come close. The info on the filter #842921I can find online specifically states it is for "big block" engines while some of the info on the net states the 492932S filter is for engines UP TO 26hp. There will be a lot of people there, but they won't be any off them wearing. Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:07 am. The 23hp is probably the best decision though, I believe the 12,18, and 23 are all within 20lbs of each other so why not get a 23. if so you may find the. More room,more stablity,handles chopy waters and winds alot better and I only lost 1 mile per hour. Posts: 183. Rinse. Re: 25hp go devil surface drive. im interested in a getting a godevil duck skiff. Hope that helpsJoined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:19 am. Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:40 am. MMT Pro Member. I may have applied everything to thick. On a stock motor I was turning a big blade 3800 bout 21-22 mph. The front storage is limited but it did fit 4 life jackets, throwable, and fire extinguisher. Vancouver Sun Archives 1912 - 2021. 2. Re: Installing Gator Tail 35. Well i run a 35 on a 1542 tracker grizly and it runs like a scolded dog. A few of us, not many, plan to take ourselves on a Sparkleberry tour this Saturday morning. The boat it will be going on is a 17ft by 48 modified v hull with medium size pods. Keep in mind I've only run this boat with these new mods for about 10 minutes, so I'm sure there's a bit more to be desired. im in central florida. . Speeds were taken with Navionics GPS app on my iPhone. 5, 14 and 25HP. Roughly 55 hours on my 40hp. at least that's been my experience the last 2 years I've been there. Look where the pushrod seats under the rocker arm. 18' Weldcraft - 90HP. Duck Run. Just me, just sayin. a 20'x44'' skiff runs well with a 27kholer. the wobble could be your bearing going out but i am gonna go with something electrical. British Columbia Marriages 1800-1946at MyHeritage. MMT Super Elite Member. Find a buddy who has a GTR and go run it in all your places. Re: 27hp Kohler GoDevil. The more you talk about hunting areas on the internet, the more crowded they are going to be. The front storage is limited but it did fit 4 life jackets, throwable, and fire extinguisher. I have cam and heads but this should be a good starting point. You can apply GatorGlide over factory paint jobs with the same prep, sand and wipe with acetone. This is not a race, it is not a poker run, it is just. Now it has 208 hrs. Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:47 am Posts: 258 Location: Duck Hill & Starkville, MS The boat handles well and will turn on a dime. The 9. 0. Bought a MSR Hp AOF pro clutch lever at local motorcycle shop in town. Add $500 for BPS crossover muffler. Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:48 pm. 18 hp Go Devil shaft/prop removal issues. Total Boat Load With Gear Etc: Light = myself 195lbs, 1 battery, 8 gal gas, misc gear in storage areas. Heavy ass still run 30. Other than that their all the same. Re: AKC/UKC Champion Pedigree Chocolate Lab Puppies For Sale. Duck season comes around and the first few runs out I had the motor running about 3500-3600 RPM (max is 4000 w governor). I went out a few nights later by myself and caught a few more in a couple of hours. let it sit for 30 minutes are so. HDR 5000. Run shallow, run loud. Didnt find much help so im posting hoping to help someone else out some day. ProDrive EFI and LA Sportsman Show. Also, run the motor out of the water and see how many rpms you can get up to and then report back. Jimj. That's how a hunt deck boat is built anyways. It's on a 14-36, perfect for two hunters and dog, grass blind, decoys and guns. Depends on how much shit u run over Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. when it is idling, you will hear a distinct, "tick", sound from the engine, and it will idle down or run rough for a few seconds. MMT Pro Member. Please Help! Leak test to make sure the valves are sealing, and also make sure your coil is Firing. everything we run here is just thick hydrilla and lillys. Board index » MMT Main Forums » The Duck Blind. We have pilings drove for camps, and no wake signs. They are not insuring the Briggs engine, they are ensuring the Gator Tail motor assembly. Last night i had full tank, 2 batteries, trolling motor, cooler full of beverages, 2 bags of gear, 2 guns, and 3 people averaging 200lb a piece. Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:56 pm. Well it just so happens that I am in the process of building a chain driven SDMM that will run aluminum props from 6. 2016 Sparkleberry Swamp Duck Run All credit goes to Mike Anderson for creating this video. Speeds | Deep Water:almost the same as shallow, 1mph slower at times. 58 after tax. Re: go devil died today. MMT Addict. All of them are different. got 2 years on it, and they only thing I have noticed is that the shine has worn off. I used my airless and got it to spray it but seems like its spraying too much paint. I always get stuck at station 4 for some unworldly reason. Once you add a 3rd guy the shorter boats begin to struggle. We got lucky one morning. Posts: 4310. GatorGlide and GatorBase sticks better than anything I've found in 35 years of painting. GatorTail Prop Selection. Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36. Trim runs smoother, faster and now I won't be burning up switches. 31K views 7 years ago. Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:39 am Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA Re: go. Duck bill is nice for flooded timber and it cut through some flooded willow tops like butter. It's the stock configuration as far as prop/gearing. Charles Parish) Pic's of 23GTR. see the picture - go devil on left & gator tail on right. Sent using Morse Code from my not so smart phone. Also check the terminals on the toggle switch they vibrate loose some times and check the rest of the connections. Go Devil Boat. don't be shy about the main shaft - if it is coming out that fast you may. Bearing failure in the outdrive is usually due to failed seals on the outdrive allowing water in that causes corrosion on the. Location: Michigan. The way in we saw good. MMT Pro Member. Only time I can notice it is a high rpm's after running it on water. 's recommend a 9x7 prop for the 27 HP Kohler LT. 008 - . talked with for a while the other day about the new 23 and it seems like it's a bad ass little motor, apparently getting 30 mph empty out of a 400 pound 15 foot boat, and 26 with 3 folks. It takes some elbow grease. This should be a nice set up. On my 1754 with 35gdsd i was getting 17 or 18 that was with it loaded with 4 guys 2 of which were bigger and 60 duck decoys and regular duck gear as well. Speeds were taken with Navionics GPS app on my iPhone. Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:21 am Posts: 2207 Location: North Alabama Re: Speeds. #Whoneedsphysicsihaveamudmotor. 17 x 44 Southfork Mud Hull with a 25hp Big Block Mudbuddy. It's what I run. If you have good spark and the motor starts, its the harness grounding out the coils. I DO NOT OWN THE RIGHT. Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:55 am. I don’t mind jumping out in shallow. Has anyone done this on a 23 and if so how did it do,I have a very short run for a 9 inch prop in the refuge like 5 minute ride,and the long run is out of the refuge and I will take one minute of my time to put 11 inch back on,any. now you see. Pro Drive Vanguard 36 Problems. Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:50 pm. Cost of Kit $350 including UPS shipping ($295 prior to shipping) Cost of motor: 6. MMT 1000 Club. duckduckboom. they come in 1536, 1636, 1836. Running two motors has the benefit of redundancy but a larger hp single would have a place in this market. Location: Luling, LA (St. . Our large block Vanguard engines come with a Champion RC12YC spark plug. Two guys and me in the boat. Reply Quote. Not sure if this can be sticky'd or what. Use the search feature, or Google "2 blade vs 3 blade, mud motor talk". The 35 HDR looks to weight 295. it happens from being on and off the momentary button. Available in low or high transom risers. For auto's, they get your vehicle VIN and not the motor number. Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:01 pm: Hogjaw. Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:54 pm. Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:46 am. Re: Wanted: Duck Lease 2014-2015 (Delacroix/Reggio/Caernarvo I hunt in a club that has leases down there all the way from lake lery down to past 4 horse lake, and on N Reggio down to petain. Mikuni will get you a better idle. #Whoneedsphysicsihaveamudmotor. 2014 PRODIGY 1754 (#19). Just bought a 1648 Crestliner Modified V hull with a 2001 Go-devil long tail with 350 hours. pull on the 2 wires going into the clutch. especially when you say they aren't as crowded as other nearby areas. Your speeds dont seem to far off 18-19mph @ 3500 Check your out of water rpms and adjust governor so you hit 42-4300. 3 blade prop: max speed 26. It's on a riveted 1436 Jon boat, weights like 160lbs. Location: South Louisiana. _________________. Inherited a old go-devil with a vanguard engine . The aftermarket is there and you can’t beat the extra load carrying ability / power. The bigger 1854 boat will carry a load better. Stuff looked nice, they had it cut out in patterns and fitted to a swim deck. MMT 1000 Club. Location: Muscatine, Iowa. #CFFITR. 4 quarts. We got lucky one morning. 2 and really stuggled to get on plane. I think a 23 should be around 4000 out of the water and 37-3800 in the water. Wchauvin. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. _____ 1648 gd hull flying in front of a stage 3 with fpr: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:53 am:Like most, I started with a Go Devil, the first on the block, and they make a good product but MB's bearing drive system was a definite improvement, I assume Backwater's is similar (oh yeah, Beavertail also was in the changes group). Posts: 3833. It came from the factory with 492932, but I purchased the 842921. Took a 18" pipe wrench for the prop and it would pop right off. Posts: 5. The blind fit rather good out of the box. Last visit was: Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:10 pm: It is currently Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:10 pmYou can run royal purple, it's expensive, but there are others just as good for much cheaper. Do yourself a favor and find a Timken dealer and get some bearings made in the USA. Like you I need to repaint mine also. Hunt Deck ,with MB 4400 Black Death HDR, Duck Slaying, Mud Slingin Machine!!! Sun May 20, 2018 1:58 pm: libertarian. MMT Member. 20x50 WC Custom hull paired with new 40 horse Go Devil FNR motor (bone stock) Base load (fishing season): 9 gallon fuel tank, Wetsounds Surge 10 sound bar (20 lbs. It's by far the fastest prop I've ran on my boat. For the best results I would apply directly to the aluminum. duck commanders only use the best? i watched some of my old duck commander vhs tapes over the weekend and noticed a few things. On the 16x48 18mph sometimes 19 in deep water. I believe they stoped making the threaded shaft for those motors. One wire will come from the tethered kill switch and the other will be a short section of wire about 4-5". This is a tall transom PD Notice the knuckle is lower than the bracket with a piece of pipe. Have NO complaints shows no wear after 25hrs with some mud use. Never seen so many fools in one place at one time in my life.